03-25-2009 03:15 PM
Hi all,
Like Matthew I'm new to the boards. I was curious. Here's my .02 on this on some of the things I see.
Returns and Exchanges: This is the department I work in. I've seen some weird things. People get mad because they've had it for two years and don't understand why I won't take it back, even if it hasn't been opened. I once had a really funny guy yelling at me and it was all I could do not to laugh. He purchased a DS Travel kit to charge his Nintendo DS. It does have a charger in it, but he was mad that the round plug wouldn't fit any of his house sockets. I swear this is true. I tried to explain that it was a car charger, that's why it said "Travel Kit" on it. He didn't believe me. Then I get the people that purchase hard drive or external drives, install them, put their old hard drive, in the box and expect me to return it. WE CHECK SERIAL #'s and external sizes! So I'm not sure why someone would try to do that, it is stealing.
But as many stories as I can come up with about odd people, I've had just as many very nice people that I now see regularly. Someone who is nice I go out of my way to help. Someone who is not, honestly I don't. That's human nature. I think what I see here is a lot of upset people of the boards, or at least their messages seem that way since it's hard to tell emotions through text. The key here is BBY employees need to be nice all the time. I was reading a thread where a guy wanted $1300 for no reason. The emails from the GM were nice all the time.
Black Tie Protection: Even with the new format this still confuses me. Everything that is said in the information part that it says it covers, you read the white terms and conditions it says the exact opposite. I do offer them, I use them myself. So when we say employees are not telling the truth about what they do and don't do. I sometimes don't think it's the employee, I think it's what we've been told about them. Example: Xbox360. I, personally, would never buy one without a protection plan. They fail .... ALOT. On an average day I'll exchange 2 or 3 a day because of the red rings of death. That's it's number 1 failure. If you read the T&C, it says specifically we do not cover the red rings of death. It even uses that term. We just went through a BTP training module that talked about how for camera we cover heat and humidity, but in the T&C it says it doesn't cover extreme heat and humidity. What is extreme? For me extreme humidity is anything over 2%. But that's not the case for folks in Indiana that have 200+% all the time. For me extreme heat is 90 degrees, people in Phoenix it's different. For appliances our repairs for our LGs was great and very fast. Then things changes without us knowing, and now it's very slow. We knew we had great fast service, so we'd tell people that. Then it changed and we've had a few upset people.
Geek Squad: Love these guys. But when you have really smart people they can't relate to people who don't know what they do. It's almost like they have Aspergers Syndrome (I know obscure reference
). Do what we is when they start to have problems they call one of us, generally me since I can interpret Geek, to help with a customer. We find that most of the problems we use to have was because of mis-communication. Because Geek Squad has to ring up all computer sales/refunds, deal with black tie protection services (not exchanges), and do all the repairs, I personally think they need a person to do all their ring up and customer service. They are trying to fix/opt several computer at once, plus deal with several people at their counter. No wonder they are cranky sometimes.
OS/Phones: We have 4 people that do ours. 1 that speaks Geek, 1 that speaks Spanish, 1 that is a jack-of-all-trades, and one that tries very hard but hasn't been trained to know very much. All the overflow comes to Returns. I spend a lot of time on the phone while I'm trying to run credit apps or do returns. I think corp needs to look at this department a little closer. There will be 3 or 4 people answering phones and we will still miss 30 to 60 calls a day. My point of view is the customer that took the time to come visit me is more important then the person shopping at home over the phone. That's what .com is for. So while I don't care if I miss a phone call, my managers get very upset over it.
More help: It's really hard to know when you need more and less help. Our slowest day is Wednesday. But sometimes we will have a bunch of people come in at the same time on Wed. We don't have enough help. People from other department try to help, but are not trained as well as those that work the department. I'm called to help in Games, Camera and Computers often. What some customers don't understand is we don't have the labor budget to just have 20 people waiting there for you in case you come in. Buying a computer, camera, tv or appliance is a long process because it's a major decision. We need to train "Stadium" selling more instead of one on one (when it's busy). I thought I was going to be drug tested this Xmas because I stood on a display and told customers to group in. Gamers over here, Biz/students over there, Macs there. Then I went from group to group helping. After a bit the costumers started to talk to each talking about what they needed. You turn the costumer into the sales person. Sure they still had to wait, but at least they were able to talk to people while they did. If you entertain them while they are waiting, they don't notice the wait.
Anyway this is getting really long
While I think Best Buy is a great company, some things still need to change and they always will. You can't be the Best if you stay the same all the time ![]()
03-25-2009 03:36 PM
ajttk1234 wrote:
There is no difference between "consumables" and other retail products. Profit margins are profit margins ROE and ROI (return on equity/return on investment) are the bottom line on bby annual report and 10k the same as ruth (a publicl traded steakhouse similiar to where I had brunch). If my local restaurant treated me like bby this is how it would have gone. Walk in and am ignored until I find hostess to ask for a table. When drink order is wrong be told it is impossible bartender made a mistake. A month later maybe get my drink. Spend lots of time emailing manager of restaurant after I leave. Decide there are other places to eat in the future.
There is a huge difference. If it was a soda you're talking .05 to .25 on cost on that $2 drink. If there was booze you can raise it to $1 to $1.5 on that $5 drink. I worked in restaurant for a while. It's not the same at all. Customer expectations, cost of business are different and service styles are different.
(not related to this thread, but kinda is)
Also you're making a reference to human error vs. mechanical error. Your error on your Toshiba I've talked to 35 different IT people in and out of Best Buy, not one of them has heard of it. 2/3 of them (everyone outside of BBY) assumed it was you, and about 1/3 of the Best Buy Geeks assumed pc malfunction. So you're mad at Best Buy for something Toshiba knows about as isn't sharing with the rest of us. So you're reference isn't really about that the bartender made the wrong drink, it's really that the coke didn't taste like coke. Something beyond the bartender's knowledge unless he took a sip from every drink he made.
03-25-2009 03:50 PM
LeAnna wrote:
ajttk1234 wrote:
There is no difference between "consumables" and other retail products. Profit margins are profit margins ROE and ROI (return on equity/return on investment) are the bottom line on bby annual report and 10k the same as ruth (a publicl traded steakhouse similiar to where I had brunch). If my local restaurant treated me like bby this is how it would have gone. Walk in and am ignored until I find hostess to ask for a table. When drink order is wrong be told it is impossible bartender made a mistake. A month later maybe get my drink. Spend lots of time emailing manager of restaurant after I leave. Decide there are other places to eat in the future.
There is a huge difference. If it was a soda you're talking .05 to .25 on cost on that $2 drink. If there was booze you can raise it to $1 to $1.5 on that $5 drink. I worked in restaurant for a while. It's not the same at all. Customer expectations, cost of business are different and service styles are different.
(not related to this thread, but kinda is)
Also you're making a reference to human error vs. mechanical error. Your error on your Toshiba I've talked to 35 different IT people in and out of Best Buy, not one of them has heard of it. 2/3 of them (everyone outside of BBY) assumed it was you, and about 1/3 of the Best Buy Geeks assumed pc malfunction. So you're mad at Best Buy for something Toshiba knows about as isn't sharing with the rest of us. So you're reference isn't really about that the bartender made the wrong drink, it's really that the coke didn't taste like coke. Something beyond the bartender's knowledge unless he took a sip from every drink he made.
LeAnna, Welcome to the Boards!!
I like the nisight very much and I think your posts do a lot for the customer to let them know there are real employees here and they can here a real employees opinion.
You make some very good points, and I like the perspective. I too believe BBY is a good company and they do try and do everything right, but there is times where things don't go as expected. With the things I listed as improvments I tried to think not only as a customer but as a business owner. I don;t think BBY needs to just do any and everything the customer says just to make them happy, there has to be a nice balance between the 2.
03-25-2009 05:43 PM
LeAnna - Something that might help you (as well as anyone else at the store level) when doing returns with mobile phones...
I'm at the Best Buy Mobile call center. We have a LOT of stores that call in saying that a customer is trying to return a phone, but they're not able to locate the order number to return it, even though they ordered it online from bestbuy.com.
The problem is this: A third party provider called Cellular Solutions.
What happens is the customer orders a phone online with either a new line of service, or a qualified upgrade. Customer gets phone, doesn't like it, tries to return in store. Usually not a problem if they had a "BBY01" number, but it becomes an issue with this 3rd party provider. Cellular Solutions does sales for best buy online and over the phone of phones that are either being upgraded or signed up for a new line of service. They control their own inventory, as well as their own return policy. The down side is that they only have a 15 day return policy, and we (even at the call center level) can not pull up the order information, as they are not BBY numbers, but 9 digit longs that usually starts with 3, 4, or 5. The customer has to call them directly.
I know we at the call center level are ready to be rid of them (which we're hoping to be in August) as we have a lot of complaints come through about them.
This is just my two cents on one way to improve Best Buy, make sure other people are knowledgeable about the issues. :-)
03-27-2009 02:19 PM
GeraldRose wrote:
LeAnna, Welcome to the Boards!!
I like the nisight very much and I think your posts do a lot for the customer to let them know there are real employees here and they can here a real employees opinion.
You make some very good points, and I like the perspective. I too believe BBY is a good company and they do try and do everything right, but there is times where things don't go as expected. With the things I listed as improvments I tried to think not only as a customer but as a business owner. I don;t think BBY needs to just do any and everything the customer says just to make them happy, there has to be a nice balance between the 2.
So true. You can't please 100% of the people 100% of the time. If you did you'd be out of business very quickly. And thing thing people don't realize here is only people with problems or questions post here. I haven't read anyone post a .... Hey just wanted to say I really enjoyed my experience at Best Buy. Thanks!. Those folks are on our survey (that's on every receipt, which I encourage all to do ... good or bad) going for the $5000 shopping spree ![]()
Going back over your posts one thing you said is true, a little ..... "I think the stores could do a better job at getting friendly people as well. I don't think its that anyone it outright rude to people but they don't make a effort to be friendly either. Part of the problem I think is that BBY is a "young" company sales people are generally younger (35 or below), in turn the Managers tend to be on the young side as well, also BBY does a lot of promoting from within, which is great, except if you have a 25 year old FT associate he/she becomes friends with all their coworkers, it is a family atmosphere, then they get promoted and there is not a distinction between manager and friend. So if a complaint comes in about a coworker to this new manager the manager doesn't seem to get the proper training to be able to address the customer service issue."
The family atmosphere is great. It really is a fun place to work. I'm retired, but only 42 so I really need something to do ... you can only play video games so much before your eyes fall out LOL. I'm the 2nd oldest person in my store, the other is 44. While it's not bad to be a young go getter, I don't know if some of these folks are ready emotionally to handle stress and upset people. So they just take the nonchalant road of there's the door, bye. Which is wrong. They are not bad people, and really do go out of their way for folks ... if you're not getting in their face. Also, my personal opinion, Manager's should socialize outside of work or work related events with non-managment staff. It's a lawsuit waiting to happen. So "family" is fine at work ... as long as you know where to draw the line.
03-27-2009 02:26 PM
Miranda wrote:LeAnna - Something that might help you (as well as anyone else at the store level) when doing returns with mobile phones...
I'm at the Best Buy Mobile call center. We have a LOT of stores that call in saying that a customer is trying to return a phone, but they're not able to locate the order number to return it, even though they ordered it online from bestbuy.com.
The problem is this: A third party provider called Cellular Solutions.
What happens is the customer orders a phone online with either a new line of service, or a qualified upgrade. Customer gets phone, doesn't like it, tries to return in store. Usually not a problem if they had a "BBY01" number, but it becomes an issue with this 3rd party provider. Cellular Solutions does sales for best buy online and over the phone of phones that are either being upgraded or signed up for a new line of service. They control their own inventory, as well as their own return policy. The down side is that they only have a 15 day return policy, and we (even at the call center level) can not pull up the order information, as they are not BBY numbers, but 9 digit longs that usually starts with 3, 4, or 5. The customer has to call them directly.
I know we at the call center level are ready to be rid of them (which we're hoping to be in August) as we have a lot of complaints come through about them.
This is just my two cents on one way to improve Best Buy, make sure other people are knowledgeable about the issues. :-)
I did not know, but then again we have our Mobile depart do all sales and returns. So hopefully they do, but I'm going to print and show them. ![]()
One of the bad things about .COM orders is it's not part of the the regular Best Buy system. I can not exchange a .COM order. I can let a customer pick one up, and return one. That's it. That's the only access I have to it. So if you receive a defective item, the only thing I can do is return it. The exact form of payment is credited. If you used a gift card, you have to wait for one to be reissued to you. The store can not give you any type of funds for your return. The accounting systems are not connected. This upsets people. They want their money or new product now, and I can't do that. I know why they do it this way, and they pretty much have to, but most people don't understand.
03-27-2009 02:45 PM
03-27-2009 04:21 PM
GeraldRose wrote:42 and retired?
Congratulations!
Yeah .. six years. Retirement is for the birds!!! I have WAY to much energy not to be doing something.
But see this is one of the things that sets me apart. I'm at Best Buy because I want to be, not for the paycheck. I never even see that. So I honestly care about people's experiences here. They should be having as fun as I do there. People should be excited when they get that new item. It shouldn't scare them or make them wonder if they did the right thing.
03-27-2009 06:39 PM
03-30-2009 01:30 AM
Hey ajttk1234,
In the interests of sort of staying on topic in this thread here, what's some constructive feedback you could give to us as Best Buy employees? I've seen your other posts and I can understand if you're frustrated, but believe me, I'm really soliciting feedback to build up our interactions with you as customers - what can we do better overall as a company and as the people you talk to/shop from on a daily basis?
