04-20-2009 01:42 AM
So today was the last day I will ever purchase anything at Best Buy. I recently bought the Canon Vixia HF S10 camcorder but had to exchange the first one I got due to sand underneath the lens. The instant I saw the sand under the lens I put it back in the box and brought it back. That exchange went down with no problem. I get home, review the manual, and realize the camera does not have the option to record time lapse videos, a feature I was looking forward to.
There was not much response about this video online when I bought it so I could not see whether or not any website told me if it had time lapse. All I had to trust was BestBuy.com and that was obviously a mistake. Their website specifications of this camcorder said that it did have time lapse. I brought the camcorder back in when I had time a few days later, expecting no problem when trying to return it and not pay the restocking fee, due to a misleading specification for the camcorder. What I got though was not at all a fair treatment of a customer.
For the first 20 minutes I stood in silence while a young man intensely looked over the Canon Vixia HF S10 with it powered on. Next came 25 minutes of more silence while he read over the manual. After that was 20 more minutes while he looked online and opened up the manual on the computer so he could search the text easier, in silence. He then left, and returned 5 minutes later and finally spoke...
He told me he did not believe that I wanted the time lapse feature. He said it was a feature more commonly found on cheap cameras and not high definition camcorders, and that it was not a buying point when I made my purchase. I was then told how he thought I was just trying to find a reason to return it. I told him this was not the case. I named him the camcorder I had my eye on now, which was the Panasonic HDC TM300. He went over to his computer and began to search again in silence.
A few minutes later the manager came out to "greet" me. The first thing I was told was that if I exchanged the camcorder already why would I want to return it now? Why was I unhappy with it now? I told her that I had very little time to mess around with the camcorder, and I had put it back in the box when I first saw the sand under the lens. This was not the correct answer for her obviously and she repeated her statement of questions again.
The quiet man then spoke up again, to tell her and me that the Panasonic camcorder I was interested in is not being manufactured anywhere yet and does not even have a time lapse feature. This is completely false, Panasonic's website has had the product on sale since April 15, 2009, and the PDF manual for the product has time lapse as one of the main features. I have also already seen time lapse videos from the Panasonic HDC TM300 on YouTube. I had even told them I would be purchasing this product from them, although that did not seem to help because they were under the impression that this Panasonic was never going to be manufactured.
I tried to tell the quiet man and the manager this but was ignored completely. The manager told me they only waive the restocking fee for malfunctioning products only and that she was doing me some sort of favor, even though I bought the camcorder with intent of using a feature Best Buy lied about it having on their website. She told me they would never allow a waiver of the restocking fee for me or my family ever again (She had just read to me the names under the reward zone card my parents have). I finally received my full refund, without having to pay the restocking fee, after 1 hour and 40 minutes, just a few minutes before closing time ironically...
I walked out of Best Buy today knowing I would never purchase anything from them again. They crossed the technical boundaries I had based my return upon and into moral ones when I was accused of using time lapse as just a way to avoid the restocking fee. I was flat out told by the quiet man inspecting my camcorder that time lapse was in no way a buying point for me and that a high definition camcorder should not be expected to even have that (despite Best Buy's website telling me otherwise).
I have become deeply disappointed in Best Buy's customer service department today. They lost themselves a very eager and loyal customer.
Matt
04-20-2009 04:05 AM
Wow that's no fun. It is horrible when people make you out as dishonest and you know yo aren't. Take care.
04-20-2009 04:56 AM
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04-20-2009 01:18 PM
Thank you all for the responses! Thanks Imarine and stldude29 for understanding.
SlimJim77,
"Time lapse functionality can be easily achieved with software. Your reason for return is not worthy of waiving a restocking fee. They did indeed do you a favor. Hope you enjoyed the rental."
They lied on their website about the function of Time Lapse being available on that model. It was a plus feature for me when it came to purchasing that camcorder. They did not mention any software to me and I believe you when you say that it exists, but why should I have to do that when it was their mistake in the first place? I don't owe them anything so why would I do that. I came to the store, purchased the camcorder, and left. Yet somehow I should pay for their fault? How does that make it ok to harrass me and charge me a waiver fee?
It doesn't, which is why I did not have to pay the fee, only the price of hearing employees at a store I used to love accuse me of tricking them.
They messed up, and then continued to worsen the situation by hassling me. It was no favor to me for them to waiver the restocking fee. They could not accept that it was indeed the fault of the store and not me. Its your perspective that they had, without the logic of any software. In your eyes, and the eyes of the employess at Best Buy that day, only the customer is at fault. The customer that did not think it was necessary to keep a product bought under false circumstance.
Starflyer59,
"Loyal customers stick with a company through the good and the bad."
I was loyal to them up until this point. Was I just supposed to sweep this all under the rug, forget about the way they treated me? It is obvious this has never happened to you which makes your statement so easy for you to say. Loyal customers don't stay with companies that treat them bad. They are not loyal when they stay, they are dumb. Companies like Best Buy seem to forget they have to earn the respect of customers, and one bad decision will cost them future sales.
Their customer service should be trying to help the consumers which in turn helps themselves. Instead they worsened the situation by telling me their personal feelings interfere. Not once did I recieve an apology during the entire ordeal. They made it seem like I was conning and decieving them into the money I should never have even spent there.
Matt
04-20-2009 01:40 PM
stldude29 wrote:
Slimjim, not a lot of people are aware of that technology convergence. People come to BBY to be helped with that type of stuff, but when you get treated the way this person did....I would never come back either. I have been mistreated and stereotyped before and it is not fun and very embarrassing.
The OP seems like a pretty detailed person. The type of person that would/should know how easy it would be to do the same funciton with software.
And, the OP wasn't even mistreated. Everyone else would have had to pay a restock in this situatuion. The OP did not.
04-20-2009 01:48 PM
ExBBCustomer35 wrote:Thank you all for the responses! Thanks Imarine and stldude29 for understanding.
SlimJim77,
"Time lapse functionality can be easily achieved with software. Your reason for return is not worthy of waiving a restocking fee. They did indeed do you a favor. Hope you enjoyed the rental."
They lied on their website about the function of Time Lapse being available on that model. It was a plus feature for me when it came to purchasing that camcorder. They did not mention any software to me and I believe you when you say that it exists, but why should I have to do that when it was their mistake in the first place? I don't owe them anything so why would I do that. I came to the store, purchased the camcorder, and left. Yet somehow I should pay for their fault? How does that make it ok to harrass me and charge me a waiver fee?
It doesn't, which is why I did not have to pay the fee, only the price of hearing employees at a store I used to love accuse me of tricking them.
They messed up, and then continued to worsen the situation by hassling me. It was no favor to me for them to waiver the restocking fee. They could not accept that it was indeed the fault of the store and not me. Its your perspective that they had, without the logic of any software. In your eyes, and the eyes of the employess at Best Buy that day, only the customer is at fault. The customer that did not think it was necessary to keep a product bought under false circumstance.
Starflyer59,
"Loyal customers stick with a company through the good and the bad."
I was loyal to them up until this point. Was I just supposed to sweep this all under the rug, forget about the way they treated me? It is obvious this has never happened to you which makes your statement so easy for you to say. Loyal customers don't stay with companies that treat them bad. They are not loyal when they stay, they are dumb. Companies like Best Buy seem to forget they have to earn the respect of customers, and one bad decision will cost them future sales.
Their customer service should be trying to help the consumers which in turn helps themselves. Instead they worsened the situation by telling me their personal feelings interfere. Not once did I recieve an apology during the entire ordeal. They made it seem like I was conning and decieving them into the money I should never have even spent there.
Matt
Matt, the reality is, the whole scenario worked to your favor. It cost you no money to evaluate this camera in the comfort of your own home. I'll take you at your word that the BBY website may have had some information wrong. This isn't the first time this has happened, and it surely won't be the last. Forgive the CS reps for making seem like you were a criminal. Keep in mind people will say anything to get out of paying a restock fee.
04-20-2009 01:57 PM
SlimJim77 wrote:
Time lapse functionality can be easily achieved with software. Your reason for return is not worthy of waiving a restocking fee. They did indeed do you a favor. Hope you enjoyed the rental.
If Best Buy advertises a product as having a specific feature, feature X -- and a customer purchases said product because they think it has feature X ... and it turns out Best Buy's information is incorrect, and said product does NOT have feature X... you think its ok that Best Buy "steals" a restocking fee from the customer?
Wow, thats just... sad. In this instance, Best Buy was completely in the wrong. If I'm the customer, and I'm looking for a specific feature... and you tell me it has a specific feature... I expect to get that specific feature. If I get home, and get the product out of its box and find out it does not have that specific feature, and I want and/or need that specific feature, you sure as heck bet I'm returning the product and expect a full refund.
Just my .02...
--Eric
04-20-2009 02:13 PM
We don't know if BB advertised that this camera had a time lapse feature. He trusted the salesman word and the salesman was wrong.
Never trust a salesman.
